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cannot be the bliss of the Atma. This is the joy of the mind! Once you have the bliss of the Atma, that bliss will never leave.' Then he says, 'Now it makes sense. But our gurus were all telling us that this was the bliss of the Atma. This is the only experience (anubhuti) I have.' 'No, with this kind of experience, you will go from having two legs into four legs!' These are the kinds of wrong things they have taught these poor people! To enjoy the joy (anand) of the mind, in the ignorant state, is itself called the cause of the realm of lower life-forms (adhogati). Really, you should only take pleasure from the bliss of Gnan!
Therefore, if you enjoy mental pleasure out of ignorance (agnan), all that will be a cause (karan) for a life in the lower realms of existence (adhogati). People in the world, will always dwell in that mental happiness (maansik anand). They may have some suffering from the outside (upadhi), but again, they will find a way back into the mind's happiness (maansik anand), so then it all starts up again! Not the Believed but the Known Is Needed
All you have to know is, whether or not the disease of the worldly life (sansar) has abated. If you have doctors, and your disease does not subside, then it is your own fault.
Questioner: It has decreased. Dadashri: What has decreased?
Questioner: If it decreases with the mind, then everything decreases. Through the mind, you have renounced everything; so everything is done.
Dadashri: Yes, but what have you acquired (grahan)? Renunciation (tyaag) means that you have become empty. So there is nothing left for you, is there? Then you are poor, and poverty will set in!
Questioner: You are asking about the worldly life (sansar),
