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Aptavani-8
...But the One That Feels is the Pudgal (the
Non-Self Complex)
Now, what is Atma? It has no feelings or anything like that. The Atma is only in the form of light! But from wherever there are feelings, we can find the Atma.
Questioner: So does it mean that chetan is the basis of feeling, or that chetan lies where the feelings arise?
Dadashri: If we say that the basis of feelings is chetan (life energy), it creates another problem. The feelings arise because of the presence of chetan! So wherever there is feeling, there is chetan.
Questioner: The feeling that arises and manifests itself; is not chetan that manifests, is it?
Dadashri: It is the non-Self complex (pudgal) that expresses feelings, but because there is the presence of chetan there, the feelings arise and pain is felt. So if you want to make a distinction between the chetan (soul, atma) and jada (inanimate, matter), then no feelings arise in this tape-record, therefore, there is no chetan (soul) in it. To Continuously know Is the Nature of the Soul
Questioner: So is there a difference between chetan (soul) and matter?
Dadashri: An enormous one! Chetan is invisible (aroopi); whereas matter is roopi, it is visible. Matter will decay, fall apart, dissipate and after a long time it will start to decompose. It is something that you can see with your eyes, taste with your tongue and hear with your ears; whereas chetan is the Absolute Soul (Parmatma)!
Questioner: So what is the difference between the Self (Atma) and the non-Self (anatma)?
| SR No. | 030038 |
| Book Title | Aptavani Shreni 08 |
| Original Sutra Author | N/A |
| Author | Dada Bhagwan |
| Publisher | Dada Bhagwan Aradhana Trust |
| Publication Year | |
| Total Pages | 436 |
| Language | English |
| Classification | Book_English |
| File Size | 1 MB |