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78 A Sadhu's Reminiscences of Ramana Maharshi associated it with the same thing. People in Madras, too, saw it and some got into their cars immediately and made their way to the Ashram. This is a fact which I will not attempt to explain, but must accept it as it happened.
In 1938 Stanley-Jones a Congregational Bishop came to call one morning. He was accompanied by a secretary who took copious notes of all he said and little of what the Maharshi was allowed to say, which was not much. There were two other Christians in the party. He was on a tour of India collecting material for a book which was out to prove that Hindu Saints were nothing as compared with just an ordinary Christian believer. He wanted to know what Bhagavan's method had been and how much and what he had attained by it. His whole attitude was arrogant and uncompromising. For the actual conversation I have refreshed my memory from the Talks, though modified according to my memory.
S. J.: What is the quest and goal? How far have you progressed?
B.: The goal is the same for all. But why search for a goal at all? Why are you not content as you are?
S. J.: Is there then no goal? B.: I am asking you why you are seeking a goal?
S. J.: I have my own views on these things. I want to know what Maharshi has to say about them.
B.: Maharshi has no doubts so does not need to ask such questions. What are you searching for?
S. J.: I consider the goal to be the realization of the Higher Mind by the lower mind so that the Kingdom of
